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Ep 22 · 2026-10-30 · 39 min

Gigi · Lit Studio

Gigi tells how going back to concerts led her to X spaces and to Stilo World's music. She helps Stilo with Lit Studio, where artists add songs and people stream them, and with Cyberfy, a site for web3 events. Then she and Zaal talk WaveWarZ.

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I have the pleasure of having Gigi here today uh with me. How you doing today,

Gigi? >> I'm good. How are you? >> I'm good. I'm really excited to have you

on. It's gonna be an absolute blast. We have a lot to talk about a little bit

about, you know, what you're doing, but also a lot to talk about um about our,

you know, collaborative project, WaveWarZ. So, um really excited to dive deeper into who you are and what you're

doing with uh one of my good friends, Dope Stilo. So, um yeah. Do you want to

give us a little intro on who you are, GW? >> Yeah. Um, so hello. Um, my name is Gigi.

Um, well, so I, um, in the past like 14 years, um, you know, I've done like the

traditional, um, way of like going through education, all of that, going to college, getting my degree um, in

business, marketing u, major with a minor in computer information systems. And then um but throughout my goal was

always to work with nonprofits and I've volunteered with nonprofits um high throughout high school. Um super

involved in community at school and like in my neighborhood and everything. Um and then through college I was able to

um work with a nonprofit um like officially and then continued that. And when I graduated in 2019,

um I continued to work for them hybrid and remote. And then like when 2020 hit

with um COVID, everything kind of became remote. Um and I had another um um

remote job as well, thankfully.

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when I turned 29 last year in 2025, um, I was like, wait, like since like

graduating college, the the following years didn't turn out to be the way I

want it to be. Um, and then, you know, um, with COVID and everything, um,

everything became remote mostly for me. Um, and thankfully I was able to, you

know, still have a job and continue that. Um and then but like fun was

missing from my life. Um I used to do like dance and everything, film

documentaries and all of that throughout school. Um but when COVID hit and I was

just working remotely, I wasn't really having fun. Um it was just like work,

fun, um I mean work, family, volunteer, and all of that. And then um my last

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year like I'm gonna make it a point to have fun. Like no matter what, no matter

work or family or anything, I'm going to make a point to do something that's fun

for me. Um and so that was going to um a concert and that's Chris Brown's

concert, two of them. And um and previously like my dancing days kind of

like dwindled. I haven't like danced or like really listen to music that much

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just didn't feel as connected as I used to like I used to dance every day for

like up until I graduated college and stuff >> and um I've done community shows, talent

shows and stuff like that and it was just something that was missing even

though I felt like I have completed that like life of like really truly enjoyed

the music and dance aspect of my like hobby and um interest and passion for

it. Um, but at but I didn't want it to be like completely gone just because I'm

not doing it as active as I used to be. Um, but last year, yeah, going to the

concerts really felt like my soul was revived from like all of those songs

that he played because it was the 20th anniversary concert. Um and then afterwards um because I worked in you

know communication marketing for nonprofit organizations I personally didn't have social media um accounts

previously while I was working. So last year I was like you know what I want to

see what like the digital world is like now from the personal aspect instead of

like you know when you're working for a nonprofit you have to like like abide by

their rules and stuff. And we weren't um they weren't even for X at all. um they

didn't have an account on there so I wasn't managing it um like a Twitter

page but um I I chose X um and Tik Tok just because I was like okay like I want

to have a place where I can archive all of my 20s and like previously like songs

and dances that I admired and just like archive that for a little like this

little break that I was taking um from work and everything. Um, and so while I

was doing that, um, I chose Tik Tok because I've never had one. So the past

like almost a year, um, I did that, but, um, I kind of stopped Tik Tok

since like March of this year, but like my archive is there, like all of the

dance and stuff. And then like X became kind of like the prominent place. It

just kept >> I thought I was going to stop but then it kept on like like I met CEO through

like another music community and then the conversation just kept on going and connecting with people through art and

music that it was just like the perfect platform to continue on and not thinking

because I wasn't like a social media person at all but um the music kept me

on the platform I guess. So yeah >> that's really cool. I I love it. I think

I I've heard a lot of people's stories and I think uh that they can resonate

with the like during co not having um there's this concept of third places a

place that you go outside of work and home a lot of people's work and home

became the same thing. So third place became second places and lots of third

places closed down. So I think that's really valuable is finding a digital third place. Um, and something like, you

know, not experiencing social media and then being able to take it at the point

in your life that you're at is really cool because you also don't have some of

the same negative effects of social media from a lot of people who have been

using it for a period of time. Um, and you get it a really cool unique

perspective. So, that's really cool. Um, I love your story. I would love to know

more about some of the nonprofits um, and like maybe how that kind of journey

uh, came into crypto. Was it specifically through the music X spaces or is there kind of something else

there? >> Well, so the thing is I'm not in crypto. So >> um when um when I joined X again, it was

to just archive a couple things um of like music and dance related and

anything in those sense or just prominent things from film from film and things like that. But um and then I

found out about spaces and like going and like talking to people about that

and talking to AI artists and things like that. I was like, "Oh, that's

something new." Like I didn't know about AI music really before I joined X um

November of 2025. Um, and then, um, Stilo and I started following each other

February or March, like right before the battle with, um, the the guy that he did with the VB

community. >> It's wonderful. >> The wonderful. Okay. Yeah. Um, right before it was like maybe like a week or

so that we started following each other and then I was like, "Oh." And then I

saw him in WaveWarZ space and I was like, "Oh, wait. This is so cool." like

he actually makes that's why I'm so like we're so connected is because um before

him all I knew was AI music on the X platform, right? But then when he was um

you know posting about Ambition One and it being out and everything, I was like,

"Oh, wait." Like this is like an artist artist. Like he makes his own music, he

sings, he writes his lyrics and all of that. And I've never um met anyone like

that ever. And so I was like, "Oh, this is such like a cool like music friend

that I can have." Like I've never had friends that were like as passionate

about like music or dance or anything like that as I was. So, so we just kept

on talking and then um you know we were doing spaces to prep for his um his

battle and through that is how I met um the rest of like the community um from

WaveWarZ and then started to go um and like attend your spaces more often after

that because it was just so cool and again your spaces are so wholesome um

and just like so welcoming for like new And that's why I stuck around.

>> Yeah. Well, when you keep saying your spaces, we'll have to definitely make

sure we say hurricane spaces because hurricane >> um he is the he because his unbelievable

passion and energy as an MC and host is there. I think that that really um adds

a lot to the flavor. I 100% agree with you there. Uh the community and culture

is a really big part of the communities that I'm interested in joining. Um you

said at the beginning of that that you're not really in crypto, but tell us

a little bit about Lit Studio um and Cyberfy, some of the projects, you know,

you're working with Stilo on helping out with. >> Yeah. Um and basically after really like

getting to know Stilo and like his background of music and his journey, the

highs and the lows, um and just how super innovative he is and with all

these great ideas and he's so like such a selfarter. um you know like he will

figure things out, learn it um because building all of these sites um using

lovable poof um and just you know vibe coding he taught all like as many people

do of course but it just amazes me like he continues to do that while also like

having a day job and everything. So um and he just like does not give up when

something doesn't work out. he'll figure something else out. Um, but yeah, I think just really knowing his journey

for like the past 20 years or so and um and just his, you know, perseverance

through everything and just never giving up on his music. Um, because no matter

the result or the outcome, he has continued to do it. Um, and so I was

like, "Oh, this is so much fun. Like, I want to be a part of it and I have time.

I'm flexible right now. So, like I want to support you as much as I can. And

again, um just knowing like a musical friend who produces makes like his like

their own music was just so awesome. So, I was like, "This is so much fun." Um

because it's not as like strict job that I used to do with like nonprofit stuff.

Um, so I was like, "Yeah, I'll continue to support you as much as I can, as much

like my time allows and um and buy your album and all of that. Like I will

continue to support your project." And so, um, I think with when kind of like

he's had the idea for like Lit a while back, um, like but I think this year

after the battle when Ambition won, um, I bought the album kind of like for like

$50 because I was like on Audius and then >> yeah, you want to support him. I get it.

That's huge. >> And then and I was like, I'm not such a merch person, so I'll put the money

towards the music. And then another person, I think from the VV community, I

think it was emoji or something. Um, they also supported it that way on

audience. And I think it was from that um like how the money kind of didn't

last. He was like, you know, I want this like the ownership and like um kind of

like the trading and all of that to like to combine all of those into one

platform. And that's kind of how he birthed Lit Studio. Um, and then yeah,

we just and he's had Cyberfy a little bit earlier than that um, with the

events and stuff and a lot of people, you know, in the crypto web3 community

were using that site. I'm very like like excited about it and sharing their

events and artistry through that. Um, but yeah, so I'm just like behind the

scenes like kind of helping him brainstorm here and there. um being a little bit of a guide when he needs um

like like pause for a second before you like you do this like think it through

because he gets excited just like Hurricane does with WaveZStation. Um and they just want to like share it. It's

like wait like a second. Does it work? Test it out. do all of that, guys. Like,

and they're like, "Ah, okay." And then like, yeah, but it's great that, you

know, like within the community, everybody's like creating things and they can like help each other out,

brainstorm, and also like test things out for each other. And so, just that

supportive community and the humor that you guys have is just awesome. So, yeah.

>> No, I I love that. I think um you said a lot of things that resonated with me.

Um, Stilo when he sent me uh the website the first time uh lit studio I was

unbelievably excited because >> he was giving me the inspiration for what I believe I guess I'm doing now

especially of finding out everything I possibly can about leveraging natural language to like just us talking into

software such that we can use that to help our artists grow. And the real cool

thing about that for me as even a person who I've got my electrical engineering

degree and I've gone through um a technical aspect that a lot of musicians

haven't um I get to learn from people like uh Stilo even though we have

completely different technical capabilities just because of a the inspiration of what can be possible b

the power and and and potential of open source tooling that's out there and then

c like you said Stilo's determination and grit, energy. He um has an amazing

frequency to him. what he um spits out as uh energy um what he distributes is

unbelievably positive and I have ever since meeting him and we've done a a

couple >> a few different things in different capacities some that haven't uh materialized as we had initially wanted

to but I think both of us had started with the intention of just finding a

middle ground between the two of us more and more and I'm really inspired and

excited by what he's about to and he's one of the musicians that I intend to

continue building the Zho uh for because the goal ultimately is to gain and

support uh get get collaborators for for things like Lit Studio and Cyberfy. So,

I know you're one of the the main honchos behind those two accounts. Do

you want to share us share with us a little bit more about what those uh uh

apps do, what what do and now you are creating and sharing to the world?

Yeah, I mean first off um I don't have any um role in terms of like building

the site or the platforms in any way. He did that on all all on his own. Um it's

just that you know I've kind of you know we talk pretty often. So um any ideas or

anything like that you know like because independent artists they what I've seen is basically like they do everything

kind of on their own. they don't really have a team. They don't really have

family, you know, like that can really understand what they're going through or um to kind of like bounce ideas off off

of sometimes. And so I think um me just being able to like kind of understand

and also give him like some advice here and there um and some guidance and kind

of also from like a fan side of things I can like say, "Oh, maybe this you might

want to add this or this." But yeah, he is like a brilliant person um first off.

But um basically Lit Studio um right now you know you artists get to add their songs, launch

it and be able to um you know mint it if they want. If they don't mint it, they

can just add the song um and we can be somebody can um ask permission to beam

it up for them so that it can become a song token. Um, and you know, you it's

pretty done. Like it's done. Um, but just like WaveZStation, there's some bugs here and there that pops up. But

um, and then for Cyberfy, just another like super easy um, event bright type of

um, website, but it's like very towards web 3 community. Um and um earlier this

year he's seen where when people are were so excited about it um and using

the site to add their events um spaces, conversations um like um like metaverse festivals and

stuff like that. Um that's kind of what the purpose is for. So it it is kind of

built for that type of community. Um, and then I think recently, you know,

we've like it's been tough like um handling all of those pages sometimes. And so Grockbot became um part of the

team and it's been great. Um I was like I'm about to get replaced but he was

like no but okay. I was like okay. But now it's really helping us and we're um

you know looking at reports every day to make sure you know it's actually helping

us do more um for him so and for his brand and um you know we're doing

everything with lit to um to grow it um to make some more money

for artist um however long that takes but um definitely not giving up on

anything. Um, but I think, you know, we just have to like continue to like he

continues to like um add new features to the site, make it better um after we get

some feedback from new users um especially with like email and payments and things like that because he wants to

make it as flexible and as like wholesome as much as it can be so that

you know people that are not familiar with crypto, they can still use it who

are not like super techsavvy, they can still use it. Um, and so, you know, they

can still stream so many songs. And, you know, we're reaching out to artists um

within X and this week actually has been like super pleasant for the lit team

because even we're getting like songs um made about the lit team for some reason.

This is so sweet. Um but yeah but the platform you know um we're um he made all of these p um other

pages on X um outside of X for it too so that you know more people it can be it

can reach more people um and you know just it's a very innovative way of um of

streaming but then also combining um and adding the trading aspect of it and So,

it's like very I mean it is mostly targeted towards the web 3 community and

like um but it's also a streaming platform just on its own. Um if people

don't want to um you know buy song tokens or anything, they can still go

and get to know these amazing independent artists that are on there. >> Um but yeah,

>> that's awesome. No, I think it's really cool how you have become um basically a team member to the Stilo

World brand and that is really cool and it's as simple as you know being a

friend, a helping hand to an independent artist that's out there. It's a story I

think a lot of people can be inspired by and like aspire to be because there's so

many independent artists out there. I think every one of us out there knows at

least one person trying to do the music goal in some way, shape, or form that's

being challenged by some some point of friction. So, it's really cool to hear a

little bit more of the backstory, a little bit more about you. Um, definitely an absolute pleasure. I want

to definitely hear more about um the nonprofits, but let's talk a little bit

more about WaveWarZ. We've connected a little bit more through WaveWarZ. Um,

is there anything you kind of want to just share uh to start off? um or ask me

any questions as well about the background of WaveWarZ because uh I do

have some some interesting uh info on that. I'll give you a fun fact actually.

Let's start with that. >> Um >> my in between me moving from Portland,

Oregon to Maine in the last two years. I had two months off. I decided to send it

and go out to Costa Rica, visit Hurricane uh for two weeks technically and then you know my fiance came out and

we did the whole tourist thing there as well for a week. Um >> and those two weeks were basically like

a boot camp with Hurricane. It was the second and the third week he was coding

WaveWarZ and there were like these crazy small things that we were getting

through together. Um, and it was an absolute blast. And it was, um, we also

did an in-person wait in person, uh, live wave wars back when we were doing

NFTTS as our, um, as our voting essentially, just $1 NFTts. And I can

still vividly remember so many crazy things from that experience, but we had honestly one of the biggest uh, turnouts

because we were just making content together and people are excited um, about that for that upcoming battle. Um,

so yeah, I spent two weeks out there with Hurricane uh in Costa Rica and then

he last year came here and spent three months with me here in Maine, which is

absolutely insane as well, which I'm sure you probably heard a little bit about. But um yeah, that's a little bit

of a fun fact. I I spent some interesting uh days and nights out there

in Costa Rica with him just like out in the middle of nowhere. I knew like very

little Spanish and he was basically a translator for me. And uh it was a

really interesting and awesome experience through that. We like we knew we could really rock out. And then um

Candy, you know, has been there throughout the whole way for me as a Zho

community member as well. So um I'm excited to hear a little bit more about

like what you think about the Wave Force future. I know um how intertwined not

only you but also Stilo um is with WaveWarZ and I mean he's been a part of it

since since we've started. So um yeah, I'll kick it back over to you. Um I just

wanted to share that little tidbit. I thought you'd like that. >> No, thank you. Um I mean, yeah, the

stories you guys share in spaces is awesome. So, um any other tidbits that

are coming out of like from your guys's experiences with each other and spending

time together? >> I'm going to find a couple of the videos on X and and tag you in them because

they're before your time, but I think you'll like them. >> Okay. Okay. Um yeah, I'll look I'll look

for them. Um well, yeah. So, after that big battle and like the prep with

Catalyst, it was hilarious. Um, Stilo and Catalyst were like the two main people from WaveWarZ that I was

really friends with at the beginning. We just got along because we were like

spending every day in spaces um prepping for um the battle and just talking about

songs, how good the song a song is, the production of it, the lyrics and all of

that. So, we just kind of bonded over that. Um, and then I started to, you

know, join WaveWarZ just as a listener and Hurricane would be like, "Gubz,

Gubbies, you know, come on, take a mic. Like, we want to hear you." I was like, "No." I was I

wasn't like in the speaking sense like yet. So, I was like, I don't know what

to say. Like, because I saw that, you know, the speakers have a rhythm, the

jokes and everything. So, I was like, what do I do? Um but after a while you

know um I started I think past couple of months maybe um when lit and like the

page started to grow a little bit more and um the platform like the website was

basically done um I was able to like you know come into spaces and like tell them

about it joke about it and I was like and they be like oh you're so serious.

Oh she's here everybody be quiet and he's so funny. It's like there's Stilo and then there

is me and then so um I guess they also just like that dynamic that we have. Um

and then it was when the AI tournament started um with Way Wars I was like I

should judge like I want to judge like I want like I shouldn't just like sit

because I have some like you know I I'm I have good ears for music. I didn't

play instruments or anything like that but I have like a soul connection to

music. Um I think also being a previous like dancer um it been like you know we

can feel the beat really know the vibe. Um and so with that um you know I can

give constructive feedback on songs and so I judged like I think my first battle

that I judged was Canon versus Geek Myth the AI tournament. Um, and then, you

know, gave them some feedback that they didn't really like. But after a couple

of spaces later, they were like, you know, because there were like some transitions in songs. I was like, you

know, that was kind of rough. The AI song was too too long, you know, like

you guys shouldn't be making 10 minute songs sometimes. But I geek myth was like you know the

psychedelic tracks you they can be because the purpose of um those tracks are for like people you know to meditate

and all of do all of those things. So it's sometimes the purpose of the track

determines the length of the song. um not just like how mainstreams are like 3

to four minutes max but um you know that became a discussion the next morning and

so I would say something and then it would become a discussion I was like

okay oh wait you guys are like really listening to me which >> I was like oh they're forget about yeah

they're going to forget about my feedback later on no they brought it up

a couple of spaces later I was like oh but I appreciated that like they took me

seriously um not being a musician or um like a person that plays instruments or

anything like that, but they took my feedback. Um and that was I appreciated

that. And going forward, we you know, we talked about um judging criterias and

like what to look for and things like that. Um, and I think recently, um,

well, like yesterday or this sometime this week, um, during one of like I know

because you guys have changed the schedule from doing quick battles Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and then

just, uh, music talks with Geek Myth and God Cloud Tuesday and Thursday. Um

during those conversations, they were talking about like a different style of um judging, which I thought was kind of

unique because when Candy said, you know, maybe sometimes we can um because you guys choose judges on the day of.

Instead of doing that, why don't we just send the tracks to anonymous um judges without telling them the

artist? I was like, that could actually be an interesting experiment that you guys could do.

>> Um Hurricane wasn't for it, though. He was like, I don't want it.

I was like, "Wait a minute." But um yeah, that happened. And then I mean

recently um being a part of the discord and organizing that um how that whole

thing came to be um with us to make the wave men waves track obviously I didn't

have any um musical part in it. Just here and there like um some lyrics but

um >> and then >> you were in the in the studio when they

were making the track. That's a big part of it. Not only and sharing. Yeah,

that's really cool. I'm I'm sad I missed that part. I I was there one of the

beginning sessions just like when they were rocking out and I was like, "This

is amazing. I want more of this. I I think we should you should push and we

should both push for a lot more of that." Um, honestly, we should as a Wave

Wars community develop up I mean, I I can start um and share it out with

everyone. develop up a a studio that it can be sharable because I've seen a lot

of products out there that are like that. Some paid, some not, some not that

great. But I feel as though if we gave it open source and created that for the

WaveWarZ community, people would come join in. Especially if I could make it

really easy for them to actually add uh their suggestions in and we could like

get that support. I think that would be really fun, especially if it could be

tied into Discord. So, it's just like you just pop in the Discord, you don't

have to participate too much, but there's like some actual integrations that could be really valuable. So,

>> and I think no, like for me, like it was very special because I've never seen

like a song in the making before. So from start to finish um obviously we um

you know it was in in the preparation with the um for the the community battle

with the MB with hitm makers and so um you know I kind of was pushing like

let's not do this like choosing tracks figuring out the beats and like what

tracks to choose for like um the finals in spaces because they can hear they

like the other community like what do you I was such I'm such a competitor

So I was like, "You guys aren't taking this seriously. Like we need to like

have like an exclusive chat, an exclusive place that like we need to go." And then um that was Discord. And

so we heard the beats that um Quan and Benny sent. And when that mind your

business, which became man waves um song played, everybody was like, "Whoa." Especially Stilo was like, "Whoa." Like

what? Like what song? Like I need that like ASAP. And then um on a Saturday

um we went we were in Discord and um Stilo called me and he was I was like

I'm in Discord and he was like you are I was like yes and then we he joined and

then that's kind of how men waves became because and then that was also their

first time using Band Lab. Um, and so it was like all these new tools and like

new they just stripped off um the lyrics from M um Mind Your Business and then

they were just I was like like one person like Stilo was doing his thing

kind of listening in um from like Hurricane's um recording session because I was like how are you guys don't you

guys like need to sit down like not sit down but like video chat and like write

the lyrics and stuff? It's like no like they were just going off of each other

and it just came to be. I was like, "This is like the coolest thing ever."

Like I will this is like a music memory like my brain will never forget. So,

>> um, and Candy was there and adding some like the different like sound effects

like at the beginning and in the middle the shock and the car sound like she was

like putting those sounds in the chat, finding them somehow >> cuz he's so resourceful.

>> Yeah, he's so resourceful. Um, and so it all just it was such a great time and

I'm glad I I took a little clip of it because I just posted it today, too. Um,

just it was it was beautiful. So, I'm so thankful that that happened because wow,

it's it's awesome. >> I love it. Thank you, Gigi. That was that was awesome. I love so many things.

I want to keep keep talking. I would love to know like if there's anything

else you want to share about WaveWarZ. um where people can find you. I believe

this is gonna be your ex if anyone wants to tap in with Gbernomics

um as she's known. But uh but yeah, if you want to say any final thoughts,

would love to hear, you know, maybe maybe the future of some of these things

uh and your takes on that. >> Yeah, just um to kind of con just to um

summarize my ex purpose in a way. Um, so my page will always stay as an archive

because I have kind of continued that. And um, initially I was just adding

songs and scenes and things like that. And then when my time on X didn't start

to come to an end, I was like, "Oh, wait. There's so many like great artists

like who have like all these AI art and things like that." I was like, and then

what I started to do was whenever I would see an art on my timeline, a song

would come to mind and I was like, "Oh." And that's how my long awaited like

series that the song art match that I've been doing for months now. That's how it

started. Um, and so, you know, I continued that because it's been such a

fun thing to do. And it's also throwbacks to like songs I grew up with.

Um, and that's kind of how I've kept my page. but then also you know going to

comments and outside and spaces um and other people's post to support um of

course being the main priority person um just because now I just you know knowing

his journey and everything and his projects really well um that's just kind of become like my main thing that I want

to support um and focus on um and then being a part of wave worse and joining

to judge or just being like a body in the space um is all always such a fun

thing to be a part of and in conversations if I can um offer any type

of insightful advice to the team um I'm always there and yeah but it's my main

purpose I think since like finishing off my 20s and really trying to find fun um

music became like the reminder of it all um knowing that I think in my life

through everything. Music and dance were a constant that like never changed how I

felt about them and the same um that those things did for me. And so through

everything like through the community battles, back and forth banter and everything um the music always like wins

at the end because um I think that's like the obviously the common thing that

brought us all together. Um but for me it's always about the music. Um as and

then I think right now I I do feel like wave wars is having some type of like a

shift in phase of like how they're operating you know like the spaces I

think when I joined first a couple months like back at the beginning of

this year it used to be a lot of jokes like a lot of jokes um and of course on

the side still having like those um you know work focused new um AI I or like

new technological advances that they're finding to kind of build on their artistry. But I think now there's a

little bit more focus um in their conversations. Um and I think after these like major battles winning um the

community battles and other like within WaveWarZ battles that they've had and the feedback and the conversation from

outside people within Waveor community and everybody just giving each other feedbacks um their innovation is starting to

change. I I think I've seen that very well. Um and going forward it just seems

like I don't know it's like in definitely on the right path that's for

sure. But um everybody's also like it's it's not the same like everybody's spending time in the same space all the

time like they all everybody has like their own things going on um and you

know taking some time away here and there but still coming back to ways

because that space um it's so like I said wholesome and just everybody's like

can come back share what they found share what they're doing um support each

other test whatever they need to test for each other Um and yeah, you know,

like Grothbot um recently in the past two weeks was when CEO got like he

wanted to work on it um and add to all of the accounts because I told him, hey,

like you know, for some of the graphics that you need to work on or something,

use Grog because the lit account has that. And then that's when he was like,

"Oh, wait. Let me check out Grockpot." And then he shared it in the wave war

space and hurricane now uses it for like all of these quick battle like posts and

videos and that's like the talk of like topic right now which is hilarious. But

um yeah, so you know it's just a very innovative space with humor and music

and like who wouldn't want to be a part of that? So that's what keeps me coming

back, the music and humor mainly and the people of course. But um yeah

>> that's awesome. I love it. I I love it a lot. Thank you, Gigi. I appreciate it.

>> Um it was an absolute blast to chat. Uh I think we'll definitely need to do

another of these. Uh and maybe a little bit of a planned insight into Waveforce.

I have a couple fun things that I'm working on on the back end that I think

will be really fun. A couple things that you talked about here that will align

with the Wave Force protocol. So, we'll definitely have to be back in uh in a

few months. Like you said, we're we're in a crazy transition phase. Um the

focus is there and it's really exciting because so many things are emerging. So

um thank you so much for joining joining me everyone here popping in. Um you know

we got an interesting conversation. Candy said you know we love you love hearing your story.