Ep 22 · 2026-10-30 · 39 min
Gigi · Lit Studio
Gigi tells how going back to concerts led her to X spaces and to Stilo World's music. She helps Stilo with Lit Studio, where artists add songs and people stream them, and with Cyberfy, a site for web3 events. Then she and Zaal talk WaveWarZ.
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I have the pleasure of having Gigi here today uh with me. How you doing today,
Gigi? >> I'm good. How are you? >> I'm good. I'm really excited to have you
on. It's gonna be an absolute blast. We have a lot to talk about a little bit
about, you know, what you're doing, but also a lot to talk about um about our,
you know, collaborative project, WaveWarZ. So, um really excited to dive deeper into who you are and what you're
doing with uh one of my good friends, Dope Stilo. So, um yeah. Do you want to
give us a little intro on who you are, GW? >> Yeah. Um, so hello. Um, my name is Gigi.
Um, well, so I, um, in the past like 14 years, um, you know, I've done like the
traditional, um, way of like going through education, all of that, going to college, getting my degree um, in
business, marketing u, major with a minor in computer information systems. And then um but throughout my goal was
always to work with nonprofits and I've volunteered with nonprofits um high throughout high school. Um super
involved in community at school and like in my neighborhood and everything. Um and then through college I was able to
um work with a nonprofit um like officially and then continued that. And when I graduated in 2019,
um I continued to work for them hybrid and remote. And then like when 2020 hit
with um COVID, everything kind of became remote. Um and I had another um um
remote job as well, thankfully.
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when I turned 29 last year in 2025, um, I was like, wait, like since like
graduating college, the the following years didn't turn out to be the way I
want it to be. Um, and then, you know, um, with COVID and everything, um,
everything became remote mostly for me. Um, and thankfully I was able to, you
know, still have a job and continue that. Um and then but like fun was
missing from my life. Um I used to do like dance and everything, film
documentaries and all of that throughout school. Um but when COVID hit and I was
just working remotely, I wasn't really having fun. Um it was just like work,
fun, um I mean work, family, volunteer, and all of that. And then um my last
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year like I'm gonna make it a point to have fun. Like no matter what, no matter
work or family or anything, I'm going to make a point to do something that's fun
for me. Um and so that was going to um a concert and that's Chris Brown's
concert, two of them. And um and previously like my dancing days kind of
like dwindled. I haven't like danced or like really listen to music that much
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just didn't feel as connected as I used to like I used to dance every day for
like up until I graduated college and stuff >> and um I've done community shows, talent
shows and stuff like that and it was just something that was missing even
though I felt like I have completed that like life of like really truly enjoyed
the music and dance aspect of my like hobby and um interest and passion for
it. Um, but at but I didn't want it to be like completely gone just because I'm
not doing it as active as I used to be. Um, but last year, yeah, going to the
concerts really felt like my soul was revived from like all of those songs
that he played because it was the 20th anniversary concert. Um and then afterwards um because I worked in you
know communication marketing for nonprofit organizations I personally didn't have social media um accounts
previously while I was working. So last year I was like you know what I want to
see what like the digital world is like now from the personal aspect instead of
like you know when you're working for a nonprofit you have to like like abide by
their rules and stuff. And we weren't um they weren't even for X at all. um they
didn't have an account on there so I wasn't managing it um like a Twitter
page but um I I chose X um and Tik Tok just because I was like okay like I want
to have a place where I can archive all of my 20s and like previously like songs
and dances that I admired and just like archive that for a little like this
little break that I was taking um from work and everything. Um, and so while I
was doing that, um, I chose Tik Tok because I've never had one. So the past
like almost a year, um, I did that, but, um, I kind of stopped Tik Tok
since like March of this year, but like my archive is there, like all of the
dance and stuff. And then like X became kind of like the prominent place. It
just kept >> I thought I was going to stop but then it kept on like like I met CEO through
like another music community and then the conversation just kept on going and connecting with people through art and
music that it was just like the perfect platform to continue on and not thinking
because I wasn't like a social media person at all but um the music kept me
on the platform I guess. So yeah >> that's really cool. I I love it. I think
I I've heard a lot of people's stories and I think uh that they can resonate
with the like during co not having um there's this concept of third places a
place that you go outside of work and home a lot of people's work and home
became the same thing. So third place became second places and lots of third
places closed down. So I think that's really valuable is finding a digital third place. Um, and something like, you
know, not experiencing social media and then being able to take it at the point
in your life that you're at is really cool because you also don't have some of
the same negative effects of social media from a lot of people who have been
using it for a period of time. Um, and you get it a really cool unique
perspective. So, that's really cool. Um, I love your story. I would love to know
more about some of the nonprofits um, and like maybe how that kind of journey
uh, came into crypto. Was it specifically through the music X spaces or is there kind of something else
there? >> Well, so the thing is I'm not in crypto. So >> um when um when I joined X again, it was
to just archive a couple things um of like music and dance related and
anything in those sense or just prominent things from film from film and things like that. But um and then I
found out about spaces and like going and like talking to people about that
and talking to AI artists and things like that. I was like, "Oh, that's
something new." Like I didn't know about AI music really before I joined X um
November of 2025. Um, and then, um, Stilo and I started following each other
February or March, like right before the battle with, um, the the guy that he did with the VB
community. >> It's wonderful. >> The wonderful. Okay. Yeah. Um, right before it was like maybe like a week or
so that we started following each other and then I was like, "Oh." And then I
saw him in WaveWarZ space and I was like, "Oh, wait. This is so cool." like
he actually makes that's why I'm so like we're so connected is because um before
him all I knew was AI music on the X platform, right? But then when he was um
you know posting about Ambition One and it being out and everything, I was like,
"Oh, wait." Like this is like an artist artist. Like he makes his own music, he
sings, he writes his lyrics and all of that. And I've never um met anyone like
that ever. And so I was like, "Oh, this is such like a cool like music friend
that I can have." Like I've never had friends that were like as passionate
about like music or dance or anything like that as I was. So, so we just kept
on talking and then um you know we were doing spaces to prep for his um his
battle and through that is how I met um the rest of like the community um from
WaveWarZ and then started to go um and like attend your spaces more often after
that because it was just so cool and again your spaces are so wholesome um
and just like so welcoming for like new And that's why I stuck around.
>> Yeah. Well, when you keep saying your spaces, we'll have to definitely make
sure we say hurricane spaces because hurricane >> um he is the he because his unbelievable
passion and energy as an MC and host is there. I think that that really um adds
a lot to the flavor. I 100% agree with you there. Uh the community and culture
is a really big part of the communities that I'm interested in joining. Um you
said at the beginning of that that you're not really in crypto, but tell us
a little bit about Lit Studio um and Cyberfy, some of the projects, you know,
you're working with Stilo on helping out with. >> Yeah. Um and basically after really like
getting to know Stilo and like his background of music and his journey, the
highs and the lows, um and just how super innovative he is and with all
these great ideas and he's so like such a selfarter. um you know like he will
figure things out, learn it um because building all of these sites um using
lovable poof um and just you know vibe coding he taught all like as many people
do of course but it just amazes me like he continues to do that while also like
having a day job and everything. So um and he just like does not give up when
something doesn't work out. he'll figure something else out. Um, but yeah, I think just really knowing his journey
for like the past 20 years or so and um and just his, you know, perseverance
through everything and just never giving up on his music. Um, because no matter
the result or the outcome, he has continued to do it. Um, and so I was
like, "Oh, this is so much fun. Like, I want to be a part of it and I have time.
I'm flexible right now. So, like I want to support you as much as I can. And
again, um just knowing like a musical friend who produces makes like his like
their own music was just so awesome. So, I was like, "This is so much fun." Um
because it's not as like strict job that I used to do with like nonprofit stuff.
Um, so I was like, "Yeah, I'll continue to support you as much as I can, as much
like my time allows and um and buy your album and all of that. Like I will
continue to support your project." And so, um, I think with when kind of like
he's had the idea for like Lit a while back, um, like but I think this year
after the battle when Ambition won, um, I bought the album kind of like for like
$50 because I was like on Audius and then >> yeah, you want to support him. I get it.
That's huge. >> And then and I was like, I'm not such a merch person, so I'll put the money
towards the music. And then another person, I think from the VV community, I
think it was emoji or something. Um, they also supported it that way on
audience. And I think it was from that um like how the money kind of didn't
last. He was like, you know, I want this like the ownership and like um kind of
like the trading and all of that to like to combine all of those into one
platform. And that's kind of how he birthed Lit Studio. Um, and then yeah,
we just and he's had Cyberfy a little bit earlier than that um, with the
events and stuff and a lot of people, you know, in the crypto web3 community
were using that site. I'm very like like excited about it and sharing their
events and artistry through that. Um, but yeah, so I'm just like behind the
scenes like kind of helping him brainstorm here and there. um being a little bit of a guide when he needs um
like like pause for a second before you like you do this like think it through
because he gets excited just like Hurricane does with WaveZStation. Um and they just want to like share it. It's
like wait like a second. Does it work? Test it out. do all of that, guys. Like,
and they're like, "Ah, okay." And then like, yeah, but it's great that, you
know, like within the community, everybody's like creating things and they can like help each other out,
brainstorm, and also like test things out for each other. And so, just that
supportive community and the humor that you guys have is just awesome. So, yeah.
>> No, I I love that. I think um you said a lot of things that resonated with me.
Um, Stilo when he sent me uh the website the first time uh lit studio I was
unbelievably excited because >> he was giving me the inspiration for what I believe I guess I'm doing now
especially of finding out everything I possibly can about leveraging natural language to like just us talking into
software such that we can use that to help our artists grow. And the real cool
thing about that for me as even a person who I've got my electrical engineering
degree and I've gone through um a technical aspect that a lot of musicians
haven't um I get to learn from people like uh Stilo even though we have
completely different technical capabilities just because of a the inspiration of what can be possible b
the power and and and potential of open source tooling that's out there and then
c like you said Stilo's determination and grit, energy. He um has an amazing
frequency to him. what he um spits out as uh energy um what he distributes is
unbelievably positive and I have ever since meeting him and we've done a a
couple >> a few different things in different capacities some that haven't uh materialized as we had initially wanted
to but I think both of us had started with the intention of just finding a
middle ground between the two of us more and more and I'm really inspired and
excited by what he's about to and he's one of the musicians that I intend to
continue building the Zho uh for because the goal ultimately is to gain and
support uh get get collaborators for for things like Lit Studio and Cyberfy. So,
I know you're one of the the main honchos behind those two accounts. Do
you want to share us share with us a little bit more about what those uh uh
apps do, what what do and now you are creating and sharing to the world?
Yeah, I mean first off um I don't have any um role in terms of like building
the site or the platforms in any way. He did that on all all on his own. Um it's
just that you know I've kind of you know we talk pretty often. So um any ideas or
anything like that you know like because independent artists they what I've seen is basically like they do everything
kind of on their own. they don't really have a team. They don't really have
family, you know, like that can really understand what they're going through or um to kind of like bounce ideas off off
of sometimes. And so I think um me just being able to like kind of understand
and also give him like some advice here and there um and some guidance and kind
of also from like a fan side of things I can like say, "Oh, maybe this you might
want to add this or this." But yeah, he is like a brilliant person um first off.
But um basically Lit Studio um right now you know you artists get to add their songs, launch
it and be able to um you know mint it if they want. If they don't mint it, they
can just add the song um and we can be somebody can um ask permission to beam
it up for them so that it can become a song token. Um, and you know, you it's
pretty done. Like it's done. Um, but just like WaveZStation, there's some bugs here and there that pops up. But
um, and then for Cyberfy, just another like super easy um, event bright type of
um, website, but it's like very towards web 3 community. Um and um earlier this
year he's seen where when people are were so excited about it um and using
the site to add their events um spaces, conversations um like um like metaverse festivals and
stuff like that. Um that's kind of what the purpose is for. So it it is kind of
built for that type of community. Um, and then I think recently, you know,
we've like it's been tough like um handling all of those pages sometimes. And so Grockbot became um part of the
team and it's been great. Um I was like I'm about to get replaced but he was
like no but okay. I was like okay. But now it's really helping us and we're um
you know looking at reports every day to make sure you know it's actually helping
us do more um for him so and for his brand and um you know we're doing
everything with lit to um to grow it um to make some more money
for artist um however long that takes but um definitely not giving up on
anything. Um, but I think, you know, we just have to like continue to like he
continues to like um add new features to the site, make it better um after we get
some feedback from new users um especially with like email and payments and things like that because he wants to
make it as flexible and as like wholesome as much as it can be so that
you know people that are not familiar with crypto, they can still use it who
are not like super techsavvy, they can still use it. Um, and so, you know, they
can still stream so many songs. And, you know, we're reaching out to artists um
within X and this week actually has been like super pleasant for the lit team
because even we're getting like songs um made about the lit team for some reason.
This is so sweet. Um but yeah but the platform you know um we're um he made all of these p um other
pages on X um outside of X for it too so that you know more people it can be it
can reach more people um and you know just it's a very innovative way of um of
streaming but then also combining um and adding the trading aspect of it and So,
it's like very I mean it is mostly targeted towards the web 3 community and
like um but it's also a streaming platform just on its own. Um if people
don't want to um you know buy song tokens or anything, they can still go
and get to know these amazing independent artists that are on there. >> Um but yeah,
>> that's awesome. No, I think it's really cool how you have become um basically a team member to the Stilo
World brand and that is really cool and it's as simple as you know being a
friend, a helping hand to an independent artist that's out there. It's a story I
think a lot of people can be inspired by and like aspire to be because there's so
many independent artists out there. I think every one of us out there knows at
least one person trying to do the music goal in some way, shape, or form that's
being challenged by some some point of friction. So, it's really cool to hear a
little bit more of the backstory, a little bit more about you. Um, definitely an absolute pleasure. I want
to definitely hear more about um the nonprofits, but let's talk a little bit
more about WaveWarZ. We've connected a little bit more through WaveWarZ. Um,
is there anything you kind of want to just share uh to start off? um or ask me
any questions as well about the background of WaveWarZ because uh I do
have some some interesting uh info on that. I'll give you a fun fact actually.
Let's start with that. >> Um >> my in between me moving from Portland,
Oregon to Maine in the last two years. I had two months off. I decided to send it
and go out to Costa Rica, visit Hurricane uh for two weeks technically and then you know my fiance came out and
we did the whole tourist thing there as well for a week. Um >> and those two weeks were basically like
a boot camp with Hurricane. It was the second and the third week he was coding
WaveWarZ and there were like these crazy small things that we were getting
through together. Um, and it was an absolute blast. And it was, um, we also
did an in-person wait in person, uh, live wave wars back when we were doing
NFTTS as our, um, as our voting essentially, just $1 NFTts. And I can
still vividly remember so many crazy things from that experience, but we had honestly one of the biggest uh, turnouts
because we were just making content together and people are excited um, about that for that upcoming battle. Um,
so yeah, I spent two weeks out there with Hurricane uh in Costa Rica and then
he last year came here and spent three months with me here in Maine, which is
absolutely insane as well, which I'm sure you probably heard a little bit about. But um yeah, that's a little bit
of a fun fact. I I spent some interesting uh days and nights out there
in Costa Rica with him just like out in the middle of nowhere. I knew like very
little Spanish and he was basically a translator for me. And uh it was a
really interesting and awesome experience through that. We like we knew we could really rock out. And then um
Candy, you know, has been there throughout the whole way for me as a Zho
community member as well. So um I'm excited to hear a little bit more about
like what you think about the Wave Force future. I know um how intertwined not
only you but also Stilo um is with WaveWarZ and I mean he's been a part of it
since since we've started. So um yeah, I'll kick it back over to you. Um I just
wanted to share that little tidbit. I thought you'd like that. >> No, thank you. Um I mean, yeah, the
stories you guys share in spaces is awesome. So, um any other tidbits that
are coming out of like from your guys's experiences with each other and spending
time together? >> I'm going to find a couple of the videos on X and and tag you in them because
they're before your time, but I think you'll like them. >> Okay. Okay. Um yeah, I'll look I'll look
for them. Um well, yeah. So, after that big battle and like the prep with
Catalyst, it was hilarious. Um, Stilo and Catalyst were like the two main people from WaveWarZ that I was
really friends with at the beginning. We just got along because we were like
spending every day in spaces um prepping for um the battle and just talking about
songs, how good the song a song is, the production of it, the lyrics and all of
that. So, we just kind of bonded over that. Um, and then I started to, you
know, join WaveWarZ just as a listener and Hurricane would be like, "Gubz,
Gubbies, you know, come on, take a mic. Like, we want to hear you." I was like, "No." I was I
wasn't like in the speaking sense like yet. So, I was like, I don't know what
to say. Like, because I saw that, you know, the speakers have a rhythm, the
jokes and everything. So, I was like, what do I do? Um but after a while you
know um I started I think past couple of months maybe um when lit and like the
page started to grow a little bit more and um the platform like the website was
basically done um I was able to like you know come into spaces and like tell them
about it joke about it and I was like and they be like oh you're so serious.
Oh she's here everybody be quiet and he's so funny. It's like there's Stilo and then there
is me and then so um I guess they also just like that dynamic that we have. Um
and then it was when the AI tournament started um with Way Wars I was like I
should judge like I want to judge like I want like I shouldn't just like sit
because I have some like you know I I'm I have good ears for music. I didn't
play instruments or anything like that but I have like a soul connection to
music. Um I think also being a previous like dancer um it been like you know we
can feel the beat really know the vibe. Um and so with that um you know I can
give constructive feedback on songs and so I judged like I think my first battle
that I judged was Canon versus Geek Myth the AI tournament. Um, and then, you
know, gave them some feedback that they didn't really like. But after a couple
of spaces later, they were like, you know, because there were like some transitions in songs. I was like, you
know, that was kind of rough. The AI song was too too long, you know, like
you guys shouldn't be making 10 minute songs sometimes. But I geek myth was like you know the
psychedelic tracks you they can be because the purpose of um those tracks are for like people you know to meditate
and all of do all of those things. So it's sometimes the purpose of the track
determines the length of the song. um not just like how mainstreams are like 3
to four minutes max but um you know that became a discussion the next morning and
so I would say something and then it would become a discussion I was like
okay oh wait you guys are like really listening to me which >> I was like oh they're forget about yeah
they're going to forget about my feedback later on no they brought it up
a couple of spaces later I was like oh but I appreciated that like they took me
seriously um not being a musician or um like a person that plays instruments or
anything like that, but they took my feedback. Um and that was I appreciated
that. And going forward, we you know, we talked about um judging criterias and
like what to look for and things like that. Um, and I think recently, um,
well, like yesterday or this sometime this week, um, during one of like I know
because you guys have changed the schedule from doing quick battles Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and then
just, uh, music talks with Geek Myth and God Cloud Tuesday and Thursday. Um
during those conversations, they were talking about like a different style of um judging, which I thought was kind of
unique because when Candy said, you know, maybe sometimes we can um because you guys choose judges on the day of.
Instead of doing that, why don't we just send the tracks to anonymous um judges without telling them the
artist? I was like, that could actually be an interesting experiment that you guys could do.
>> Um Hurricane wasn't for it, though. He was like, I don't want it.
I was like, "Wait a minute." But um yeah, that happened. And then I mean
recently um being a part of the discord and organizing that um how that whole
thing came to be um with us to make the wave men waves track obviously I didn't
have any um musical part in it. Just here and there like um some lyrics but
um >> and then >> you were in the in the studio when they
were making the track. That's a big part of it. Not only and sharing. Yeah,
that's really cool. I'm I'm sad I missed that part. I I was there one of the
beginning sessions just like when they were rocking out and I was like, "This
is amazing. I want more of this. I I think we should you should push and we
should both push for a lot more of that." Um, honestly, we should as a Wave
Wars community develop up I mean, I I can start um and share it out with
everyone. develop up a a studio that it can be sharable because I've seen a lot
of products out there that are like that. Some paid, some not, some not that
great. But I feel as though if we gave it open source and created that for the
WaveWarZ community, people would come join in. Especially if I could make it
really easy for them to actually add uh their suggestions in and we could like
get that support. I think that would be really fun, especially if it could be
tied into Discord. So, it's just like you just pop in the Discord, you don't
have to participate too much, but there's like some actual integrations that could be really valuable. So,
>> and I think no, like for me, like it was very special because I've never seen
like a song in the making before. So from start to finish um obviously we um
you know it was in in the preparation with the um for the the community battle
with the MB with hitm makers and so um you know I kind of was pushing like
let's not do this like choosing tracks figuring out the beats and like what
tracks to choose for like um the finals in spaces because they can hear they
like the other community like what do you I was such I'm such a competitor
So I was like, "You guys aren't taking this seriously. Like we need to like
have like an exclusive chat, an exclusive place that like we need to go." And then um that was Discord. And
so we heard the beats that um Quan and Benny sent. And when that mind your
business, which became man waves um song played, everybody was like, "Whoa." Especially Stilo was like, "Whoa." Like
what? Like what song? Like I need that like ASAP. And then um on a Saturday
um we went we were in Discord and um Stilo called me and he was I was like
I'm in Discord and he was like you are I was like yes and then we he joined and
then that's kind of how men waves became because and then that was also their
first time using Band Lab. Um, and so it was like all these new tools and like
new they just stripped off um the lyrics from M um Mind Your Business and then
they were just I was like like one person like Stilo was doing his thing
kind of listening in um from like Hurricane's um recording session because I was like how are you guys don't you
guys like need to sit down like not sit down but like video chat and like write
the lyrics and stuff? It's like no like they were just going off of each other
and it just came to be. I was like, "This is like the coolest thing ever."
Like I will this is like a music memory like my brain will never forget. So,
>> um, and Candy was there and adding some like the different like sound effects
like at the beginning and in the middle the shock and the car sound like she was
like putting those sounds in the chat, finding them somehow >> cuz he's so resourceful.
>> Yeah, he's so resourceful. Um, and so it all just it was such a great time and
I'm glad I I took a little clip of it because I just posted it today, too. Um,
just it was it was beautiful. So, I'm so thankful that that happened because wow,
it's it's awesome. >> I love it. Thank you, Gigi. That was that was awesome. I love so many things.
I want to keep keep talking. I would love to know like if there's anything
else you want to share about WaveWarZ. um where people can find you. I believe
this is gonna be your ex if anyone wants to tap in with Gbernomics
um as she's known. But uh but yeah, if you want to say any final thoughts,
would love to hear, you know, maybe maybe the future of some of these things
uh and your takes on that. >> Yeah, just um to kind of con just to um
summarize my ex purpose in a way. Um, so my page will always stay as an archive
because I have kind of continued that. And um, initially I was just adding
songs and scenes and things like that. And then when my time on X didn't start
to come to an end, I was like, "Oh, wait. There's so many like great artists
like who have like all these AI art and things like that." I was like, and then
what I started to do was whenever I would see an art on my timeline, a song
would come to mind and I was like, "Oh." And that's how my long awaited like
series that the song art match that I've been doing for months now. That's how it
started. Um, and so, you know, I continued that because it's been such a
fun thing to do. And it's also throwbacks to like songs I grew up with.
Um, and that's kind of how I've kept my page. but then also you know going to
comments and outside and spaces um and other people's post to support um of
course being the main priority person um just because now I just you know knowing
his journey and everything and his projects really well um that's just kind of become like my main thing that I want
to support um and focus on um and then being a part of wave worse and joining
to judge or just being like a body in the space um is all always such a fun
thing to be a part of and in conversations if I can um offer any type
of insightful advice to the team um I'm always there and yeah but it's my main
purpose I think since like finishing off my 20s and really trying to find fun um
music became like the reminder of it all um knowing that I think in my life
through everything. Music and dance were a constant that like never changed how I
felt about them and the same um that those things did for me. And so through
everything like through the community battles, back and forth banter and everything um the music always like wins
at the end because um I think that's like the obviously the common thing that
brought us all together. Um but for me it's always about the music. Um as and
then I think right now I I do feel like wave wars is having some type of like a
shift in phase of like how they're operating you know like the spaces I
think when I joined first a couple months like back at the beginning of
this year it used to be a lot of jokes like a lot of jokes um and of course on
the side still having like those um you know work focused new um AI I or like
new technological advances that they're finding to kind of build on their artistry. But I think now there's a
little bit more focus um in their conversations. Um and I think after these like major battles winning um the
community battles and other like within WaveWarZ battles that they've had and the feedback and the conversation from
outside people within Waveor community and everybody just giving each other feedbacks um their innovation is starting to
change. I I think I've seen that very well. Um and going forward it just seems
like I don't know it's like in definitely on the right path that's for
sure. But um everybody's also like it's it's not the same like everybody's spending time in the same space all the
time like they all everybody has like their own things going on um and you
know taking some time away here and there but still coming back to ways
because that space um it's so like I said wholesome and just everybody's like
can come back share what they found share what they're doing um support each
other test whatever they need to test for each other Um and yeah, you know,
like Grothbot um recently in the past two weeks was when CEO got like he
wanted to work on it um and add to all of the accounts because I told him, hey,
like you know, for some of the graphics that you need to work on or something,
use Grog because the lit account has that. And then that's when he was like,
"Oh, wait. Let me check out Grockpot." And then he shared it in the wave war
space and hurricane now uses it for like all of these quick battle like posts and
videos and that's like the talk of like topic right now which is hilarious. But
um yeah, so you know it's just a very innovative space with humor and music
and like who wouldn't want to be a part of that? So that's what keeps me coming
back, the music and humor mainly and the people of course. But um yeah
>> that's awesome. I love it. I I love it a lot. Thank you, Gigi. I appreciate it.
>> Um it was an absolute blast to chat. Uh I think we'll definitely need to do
another of these. Uh and maybe a little bit of a planned insight into Waveforce.
I have a couple fun things that I'm working on on the back end that I think
will be really fun. A couple things that you talked about here that will align
with the Wave Force protocol. So, we'll definitely have to be back in uh in a
few months. Like you said, we're we're in a crazy transition phase. Um the
focus is there and it's really exciting because so many things are emerging. So
um thank you so much for joining joining me everyone here popping in. Um you know
we got an interesting conversation. Candy said you know we love you love hearing your story.